It's hopeless
I needed to edit some images on a laptop that doesn't have Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements, which is a great app). So I figure, it's been a few years, let me download the open source image editing application "Gimp". Maybe it's technically called "The GIMP", I'm not sure. There's probably a recursive acronym in there, but clearly this is the work of a group whose branding efforts would probably name a PowerPoint clone "The Retard". Sheer incompetence. But I digress.
I downloaded the oddly-packaged .zip file that makes up the prerequisites for the application on Windows. Fortunately, I knew enough to look for a Windows-optimized distribution of the app, otherwise it would have been hopeless. Interestingly, they split the prerequisite GTK libraries (whatever those are) from the actual program download, so you have to download two files instead of one. All this so cut download size from 11.5 megs to about 8 megs. I am pretty sure that's less than a minute of my time. Thanks, The GIMP team!
They have a little message that says "If this is the first time you're installing The GIMP, you will also need GTK+ 2 Runtime Environment below." How 'bout you just include that crap and then detect if it's needed? I'm barely more competent than a monkey, and I know how to do that kind of stuff in Windows installer.Having deduced that I was on the right path, I had to CHOOSE A MIRROR. I know what that means, but most people who have either 1. been exposed to sunlight or 2. experienced sexual congress with another human probably will not.
After basking in this lunacy for a while, I ran a couple of pretty normal Windows installers. Setup, click click, that sort of thing. And then the true lunacy began.
Here's step four of the Windows installer's screen:
(n.b. The seizure-inducing color scheme is the default selected by the program's creators; This is for a product designed to be used by people who work in the realm of aesthetic expression.)
The most amazing thing is that we're manually asking people to manually configure "the so-called 'Tile Cache'". No, what's truly amazing is that they made a drop-down control so that you could choose the UNITS OF MEASURE FOR YOUR CACHE SETTINGS .
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Holy crap that makes me want to plotz. Track this team down. Find the boy responsible. Bring him to me.
I will try to refrain from reviewing the actual application later. And Mark, you can advocate all you want . Those of us who give a shit about our quality of life would rather suffer eventual data loss and the potential for our formats not lasting in perpetuity than endure this burden. Honestly, my cat pictures aren't that important.
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Please note, this was a late night rant to my friends about an app that was driving me crazy. I supports lots of open source efforts, and I know the Gimp isn't made for profit, it's a labor of love, and I'm sure it's a really great app, but this was just me making a funny, no need to send the flame emails. In fact, if you want, fix the silly drop-down on setup and we'll call it even. Cool?
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I hv been using gimp for years and it rocks
Are we to gather form this that you have not:
1. been exposed to sunlight or
2. experienced sexual congress with another human
(but youre so tan!)
The Retard... oh man that's funny...
I never bothered with the GIMP, even when I was in a LUG at university. I'll probably drop the $80 on Corel Paint Shop Pro X when my trial expires in 21 days (luck says I'll need to edit something that day).
I guess their Excel clone can be The Rain Man?
(what makes you think it is a BOY huh??)
Good question. Could it be this or this or this that just seemed so... masculine?
I still want to go to Adobe.com and have "Please download the MFC classes for Visual Studio if you don't already have them on your system; They're needed for Photoshop."
Of course, we're halfway there now that all current apps require separate download of the .NET runtime. At least there's a reason for keeping that separate since it's FREAKING GARGANTUAN.
You have a cat? And you haven't posted video of it on Vox? WTF man?
If you're on windows, I've heard better things about Paint.NET: http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/
It needs the .NET classes, but all recent windows come with that anyway, I believe.
I am so sorry for your loss. Just think: you will never get those minutes of your life back!
I went through this exact madness yesterday (I wanted to make an LJ icon). Patti said, "Use The Gimp. It's just like Photoshop, but open source."
I remember thinking, "Drive this '78 Pinto. It's just like a Porsche, but free!!"
I blew through most of the installer, so it didn't really irritate me. It was when I got to using the actual application that I wanted to hurt someone.
Paint.NET is what I use on Windows for the small amount of image editing I need to do. It nicely splits the difference between Photoshop and Microsoft Paint.
The Gimp lives up to its name.
The installation process is its own hell, but after using Photoshop for the past 10 years, I tried out Gimp and felt like I had passed through some portal where all logic and reason was sucked into some void and all that was left was this program.
My favorite quote on open source software was written by Elliotte Rusty Harold:
"OpenOffice flopped because the user interface was hideous: it was like something from the Windows 3.0 days. This is the sort of crap you get when you make the Mac an afterthought.
Note that I wasn't writing on the Mac. I was writing on Linux. However, if you don't make the Mac a priority, then you don't attract Mac developers to help you out, and they're the only ones who know diddly squat about user interface design."
;-)
Well, you really have to understand the context: if you were writing software for an audience of free-UNIX hackers, the name works.
It's also worth mentioning that the Windows port of GIMP is far worse than the native Linux one.
In fact, in a bout of idealism, I installed the GIMP and even bought the Visual Quickstart Guide. Much to my chagrin, I coulnd't do half the things the book mentioned -- you know, like resizing an image. Or at least, I couldn't find them under the menus where they were supposed to be (which is the same effect).
Eventually, I just said fuck it and bought an unused copy of Photoshop on eBay ... it's funny how cheap software is, when you purchase the previous version. Not free, like the GIMP, but my time and convenience are worth $100, easy.
We don't write software for you, we write it for ourselves.
-- Evan, on behalf of free software developers
LOL. I agree. The Gimp is a good editor that is just ugly as a dogs shaved butt. I prefer one of the Adobe/Macromedia products, not because they are better but because of the UI.